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The City of Churches hunts Ghosts and Ghouls!

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I was at the library picking up some books and I ran across this week’s “Whatzup”  May 7-13 issue.  Take a look at the cover article, “Hunting Ghosts and Ghouls by Deborah Kennedy.”    It looks like Fort Wayne is the next site for the national ghost and paranormal seminar called “Paranormacon.”  They are putting on a two day seminar at the downtown Masonic Temple.  The breath taking start to the article is this single sentence,

“The Fort Wayne Masonic Temple is haunted.”

Really?  Wow, where are the scientists?  Where is the noble prize?  Can you imagine what that would mean and could I read about this in a peer-reviewed journal like Nature instead of an advertising article for the conference?  Whatzup is listed as a sponsor.  Can other scientists predict and capture the next paranormal event and can it be a falsifiable and repeatable test.   Yeah, real science is hard like that.  Scientists try to remove all bias which isn’t easy.

We non-theists will need to reconsider the supernatural.  David Hume and Darwin be damned.  I really want there to be scientific proof of the paranormal events with strict controls.  Please let’s end this debate (and religious skirmishes) and show us the proof of the supernatural.   My mind could be changed but I wonder what would change a ghost hunter’s mind?

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Kennedy writes about one of the presenters Brian Harnois who is the host of ghost hunting shows such as those on the SciFi Channel and weirdly enough on the History Channel.  I asked around at the library about the haunting of the local Masonic Temple.  Apparently, the street lore is the first president of the local Freemasons committed suicide.  Queue the spooky wind and squeaky floor sound effects.  A super secret society president commits suicide in an old temple added to an already overly superstitious city and you have a recipe for good folk lore.  Anyone want to bet if the ghost hunters capture scientific proof?  I think the JREF prize of a million dollars is still available.

Are you ready for it?  Harnois’ evidence for the haunting The Masonic Temple’s shadow person:

“I saw a shadow person cross a doorway, but the light was emanating was from an LCD screen from a camcorder inside the doorway, he said.  “We tried to debunk it.   We looked into every possible scenario, but the only answers was that I’d seen a ghost.  It changed my whole view of things.”

What exactly is a shadow person?  Harnois never mentioned or listed all the possible scenarios he checked for.  A science article would list those methods and not just state the result especially one claiming paranormal conclusions.  EXTRAORDINARY CLAIMS REQUIRE EXTRAORDINARY EVIDENCE.  I bet a Joe Nickell or James Randi or maybe a FreeThought Fort Wayne member could offer some ideas he didn’t think of and test for.   Scientists scrutinize other scientist’s methods and conclusions all the time.  Here we don’t get that chance and we are supposed to take his word.

The article also mentions classes on techniques and ghost hunting toys such as electromagnetic detectors and audio recorders.  I have news for ghost hunters, magnetic fields are everywhere and especially in old buildings.  Check out this beautiful NASA video on magnetic fields that are all around us.  Nothing is proven to link magnetism to the supernatural.  I notice that most ghost hunters prefer analog recording equipment to search for audio pareidolia in the tape hiss.

I say save the $80 dollars and go to the library and pick up a book by Joe Nickell or James Randi and really learn something about human psychology and confirmation bias.  Are paranormal conferences the natural progress of the psychologies and superstitions of people with little to no science education?  It looks like the ghost hunter gurus have found a nice market in Fort Wayne.  I did see in one of the advertisement videos for the Paranormacon event that skeptics are welcome.  The promotional videos, website, and speaker discriptions lean very much in the woo woo direction.  They are having a medium speak.  I did see in one video a real scientist was speaking.  I couldn’t find that video again or see him listed as a speaker on the events page and I searched for a while.  I would go to that and pay just for that event if it is a real scientific paranormal investigator such as a Joe Nickell.  If you can find it please comment and post a link with the time and cost.

BTW:  The city of churches title is shared by 13 different cities.  It is time Fort Wayne looses the title.  Although “the” might be like the “the” in “The” Ten Commandments since there are 3 different versions in dah Bible.  But I digress…


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9 comments for “The City of Churches hunts Ghosts and Ghouls!”

  1. Posted by Andy WelfleNo Gravatar | May 7, 2009, 7:56 pm

    As someone who occasionally guides the haunted tours around downtown Fort Wayne for ARCH (and in fact was asked to do it for Paranormacon, but I had a conflict), I think a lot of it is just all in good fun. People like hearing ghost stories, whether or not they believe it.

    I will admit, though, that there are a few ghost hunters who take it to a different level. When I was the Features editor of a college newspaper, we had the Indiana Ghost Trackers come to the university’s theatre and “ancient Indian burial grounds” behind campus to do their thing. And I wrote about it for our Halloween issue. It was like watching the X-Files: entertaining, without being very credible. But in interviewing some of the ghost trackers, often they would fancy themselves a bit psychic (I say in my Daphne Moon voice).

    I didn’t quite understand what you meant at that last part about the “the” in “The City of Churches.” Can you clarify that?

  2. Posted by Andy D.No Gravatar | May 7, 2009, 8:39 pm

    I don’t know Andy, I think this opens the door for all sorts of crazy. A ghost story is one thing but buying ghost hunting tools, listening to a cold reading medium and starting an article declaring that the Masonic Temple is indeed haunted. The article then said it had a person who eliminated all secular explanations without disclosing that information. Yikes.

    All I was saying in the city of churches aside, is there is more than one “The” City of Churches. There are 3 versions of the Ten Commandments… Therefore the word “the” is incorrect.

  3. Posted by neuralgourmetNo Gravatar | May 7, 2009, 11:03 pm

    One summer, right out of high school, my friend and I decided to look into local ghost stories. At the time we even thought their might be something to the psychic thing as we had both had experiences that were hard to explain. I think though, after interviewing a whole bunch of people who claimed to live in haunted houses, that our belief, agnostic as it was, in the existence of ghosts was pretty well shaken. It was really easy to see the familiar patterns underlying most of the stories we heard and to note the complete and utter lack of any tangible evidence. Of course, we didn’t have any fancy, smancy ghost hunting equipment. ;-)

    I think people primarily tell and consume ghost stories for entertainment. Also, many ghost stories serve the same purpose as urban legends. They’re tales that impart a precautionary moral message. And I think they’re also a way of communicating oral history. But mostly they’re entertainment.

  4. Posted by neuralgourmetNo Gravatar | May 7, 2009, 11:10 pm

    Oh, and did I ever mention that I grew up, literally, in a graveyard? My father was the caretaker for a largish park-like cemetery dating back to the mid-1800s, although there were people buried there dating back to the 1700s. We lived in a house on the grounds surrounded by dead people. My father used to like to joke that we had very quiet neighbors. As much as I would have enjoyed it I never saw a ghost in the entire time I lived there growing up. You can see some rather atmospheric photos of it on Flickr.

  5. Posted by Michael B.No Gravatar | May 8, 2009, 1:17 pm

    I meant to write my own post about this subject, but I’m glad Andy covered it here – I had no idea we had such a spectacular paranormal event coming to Fort Wayne.

    My post idea came from a facebook mini-argument I saw a few weeks ago, where one of my friends mentioned he liked Ghost Hunters , and another of his friends argued that Paranormal State is “much more scientific.” :) I didn’t join the conversation, but, if I had, I probably would have had to reveal the embarassing truth that, several years ago, I wanted to try to make a “career” out of the “scientific” pursuit of the paranormal.

    In retrospect, I wish I had pursued the idea further. I think it would have revealed the difference between pseudoscience and real science earlier, and thus brought me to my current worldview much sooner. In any case, I understand what the arguers I mentioned earlier are searching for, so I have to temper my criticism ever so slightly. I agree with Leo and others that, as a matter of folklore, studying ghost stories can reveal much about our culture and its views on death, morality, etc. However, the perversions of logic that the “professional” ghost hunters are trying to pass off as real science need to be confronted. Let’s hope the Skeptologists makes it to air.

    Having watched a few episodes of Ghost Hunters – especially the earlier episodes in which he was featured – I’m less than impressed with Brian Harnois. Bad attitude + Bad attempts at science + hyper-credulity. His myspace page reveals that he is appearing at a number of events (including Fort Wayne’s) that feature a substantial ticket price – substantial in terms of paying $125 to see a high school graduate who happened to be on a crappy reality show. I guess you can make of that what you will.

  6. Posted by Andy W.No Gravatar | May 8, 2009, 3:11 pm

    I dunno. I know there will be some crazies who actually believe in what is going on there, but I think a lot of the attendees are just there for fun. If I had $80 and a few days to spare, I’d totally be there. Sometimes it’s fun to walk around in dark old places and try to scare yourself into seeing something. Even with my heightened skeptical nature, I can still sometimes do it. And while I don’t come away from that experience actually believing in ghosts, sometimes its fun to let your mind play tricks with you.

  7. Posted by Andy D.No Gravatar | May 8, 2009, 3:44 pm

    @neuralgourmet -Those are some cool pictures. What a place to grow up. I sneaked through grave yards as a teen but I never lived in one. I think it is unusual you didn’t see or hear a “ghost” while growing up. There are times when I can get spooked and the mind can play tricks. I guess you were used to your environment and didn’t let your imagination spook you!

    @Michael- I couldn’t agree more. The Ghost Hunters are distorting the scientific method. That is my main problem with certain religions, too. Thanks for more feedback on Harnois. I only based my criticism on the article.

    @Andy W- I get you like the haunted stories and tours. We all have hyperactive imagination and most of us like fiction stories and appreciate the meaning behind mythology.

    Having a cold reading for fun is fine. But teaching the science of ghost hunting and that a medium can really talks to spirits is wrong. These people are not saying it is fake. That is a big difference. Like I said, I will go to the event if they have a Joe Nickell type of paranormal investigator speak which I need to look further into.

  8. Posted by ButterNo Gravatar | May 12, 2009, 10:49 pm

    Andys W. and D.:

    Both of you are right, to an extent. Yes, hacks like Harnois ought to be ashamed and should be roundly criticized when they claim the mantle of science (assuming he isn’t just some kind of performance artist—I’ve only seen the show once, and couldn’t tell if it was taking itself seriously). But I really share the motivation behind what Andy W.’s saying: the desire to lose yourself in sort of a silly story-immersion experience. It’s the same reason that we have David Copperfield, or Star Trek conventions, or the Johnny Appleseed Festival. (Or college football games, though they rarely admit it.) Sometimes it’s fun to put your rationality on hibernate mode and let your imagination run wild. Of course, to do this nonstupidly, one has to know oneself well enough to be aware of how one’s brain can play tricks on one (overactive pattern recognition and agency detection, emotional suggestibility, tribal identity, and the rest) which kind of entails as a prerequisite a prior exposure to skeptical and critical thinking.

    I think such attitudes can ultimately help society get over religion and other superstitions. Rather than repress evolutionarily derived cognitive misfirings, it’s easier and more fun just to revel in them from time to time. There’s precedent, of course, for such conquering of our superstitions; we use the pantheons of antiquity—beings once actually worshiped and revered—as metaphors or literary devices or cartoons on greeting cards (think Cupid), and pagan festivals as excuses to decorate the house and give each other plastic crap. Of course, those subjugations were often done at the point of a sword (think Constantine or Charlemagne), but we have science and mass literacy and stable-ish nation-states now (and the Internet!), so perhaps we can rein in the irrationality more equitably and peacefully.

  9. Posted by AlanNo Gravatar | August 24, 2009, 4:04 pm

    I would love to join in on an investigation or join a ghost hunting club. I have had experiences myself and would love to learn more. Please contact me…
    ALan

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