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	<title>Comments on: Thanks, John, For A Great Meeting</title>
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		<title>By: John Loftus&#8217; Speech to FreeThought Fort Wayne (Audio) &#171; FreeThought Fort Wayne</title>
		<link>http://freethoughtfortwayne.org/2008/05/16/thanks-john-for-a-great-meeting/#comment-174</link>
		<dc:creator>John Loftus&#8217; Speech to FreeThought Fort Wayne (Audio) &#171; FreeThought Fort Wayne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 May 2008 17:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Thanks, John, for a great meeting (mightymjolnir)  Possibly related posts: (automatically generated)Our next meeting will be May 14th, 2008Current readJohn Eldredge Tonight. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: theodoersing</title>
		<link>http://freethoughtfortwayne.org/2008/05/16/thanks-john-for-a-great-meeting/#comment-166</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 18:52:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Welcome cory!

I stumbled upon this site as well a while back and have enjoyed meeting several people already at the meetings.

It's great watching this organization grow.  I bet there are a lot more people that will gravitate here than many people realize.

Hope to see you at our next meeting!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Welcome cory!</p>
<p>I stumbled upon this site as well a while back and have enjoyed meeting several people already at the meetings.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s great watching this organization grow.  I bet there are a lot more people that will gravitate here than many people realize.</p>
<p>Hope to see you at our next meeting!</p>
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		<title>By: cory</title>
		<link>http://freethoughtfortwayne.org/2008/05/16/thanks-john-for-a-great-meeting/#comment-165</link>
		<dc:creator>cory</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 13:34:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It was my first meeting (glad I had found Johns site that lead me to free thought Fort Wayne). I had come across some parts of Johns book when it was self published.  It was good to hear more of this thoughts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It was my first meeting (glad I had found Johns site that lead me to free thought Fort Wayne). I had come across some parts of Johns book when it was self published.  It was good to hear more of this thoughts.</p>
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		<title>By: andyscathouse</title>
		<link>http://freethoughtfortwayne.org/2008/05/16/thanks-john-for-a-great-meeting/#comment-164</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 17 May 2008 04:01:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't know if the meeting could have gone any better.  John was great.  (Maybe less noise in the other meeting room, but that was no biggie) I enjoyed the group conversation and Q&#38;A.  I think we picked up a lot of new members.   I agree that the theists were cordial and listened well.  The kids at the end asked honest questions about evolution and Ben Stein's movie.  They listened and all I did was say first don't give up on science because of evolution and religious groups fighting science.  Most churches made their peace with Darwin a long time ago and you don't have to be atheist to be a scientist or appreciate science.   It was like a weight lifted for them.  

After we air the audio presentation, we should calm down a bit on the anti- religion and focus on the much harder part of promoting science and reason. 

BTW: I don't know if you caught this but the attorney let it slip during the "write your own bible challenge" that he thought the world is 6000 years old.  He said "Yeah we've been waiting  6000 years for you," sarcastically!  I don't know how it is possible to be that well educated but be so wrong about the age of the earth.  Talk about compartmentalization.  I think he was spying for a conservative think tank or a very conservative church.  I have noticed  the founders of ID and discovery institute folks are lawyers.  Lee Strobel is a lawyer, too.  I think they think perceived truth is truth from dealing with courts...  They know how to argue from any perspective.   (I don't want to paint all lawyers as bad, go Eddie T)  Maybe it is the mix of being very conservative and law?  I know this is anecdotal...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t know if the meeting could have gone any better.  John was great.  (Maybe less noise in the other meeting room, but that was no biggie) I enjoyed the group conversation and Q&amp;A.  I think we picked up a lot of new members.   I agree that the theists were cordial and listened well.  The kids at the end asked honest questions about evolution and Ben Stein&#8217;s movie.  They listened and all I did was say first don&#8217;t give up on science because of evolution and religious groups fighting science.  Most churches made their peace with Darwin a long time ago and you don&#8217;t have to be atheist to be a scientist or appreciate science.   It was like a weight lifted for them.  </p>
<p>After we air the audio presentation, we should calm down a bit on the anti- religion and focus on the much harder part of promoting science and reason. </p>
<p>BTW: I don&#8217;t know if you caught this but the attorney let it slip during the &#8220;write your own bible challenge&#8221; that he thought the world is 6000 years old.  He said &#8220;Yeah we&#8217;ve been waiting  6000 years for you,&#8221; sarcastically!  I don&#8217;t know how it is possible to be that well educated but be so wrong about the age of the earth.  Talk about compartmentalization.  I think he was spying for a conservative think tank or a very conservative church.  I have noticed  the founders of ID and discovery institute folks are lawyers.  Lee Strobel is a lawyer, too.  I think they think perceived truth is truth from dealing with courts&#8230;  They know how to argue from any perspective.   (I don&#8217;t want to paint all lawyers as bad, go Eddie T)  Maybe it is the mix of being very conservative and law?  I know this is anecdotal&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptigator</title>
		<link>http://freethoughtfortwayne.org/2008/05/16/thanks-john-for-a-great-meeting/#comment-157</link>
		<dc:creator>Skeptigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:59:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We have plans for posting the audio (or better) from the meeting itself, please stay tuned ...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We have plans for posting the audio (or better) from the meeting itself, please stay tuned &#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Skeptigator</title>
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		<dc:creator>Skeptigator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 16 May 2008 17:58:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"...ill-behaved mannerless bag of douche."

I have to agree the two most ill-behaved members of the audience 
a) both showed up late, 
b) broke the "rules" of the meeting (due to their tardiness) and 
c) gave the impression that they were more interested in "saying something" than engaging in a conversation that would lead to any kind of understanding. 

Overall everyone was very well behaved and should be commended. I thought the young men in the front asked some excellent questions.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;&#8230;ill-behaved mannerless bag of douche.&#8221;</p>
<p>I have to agree the two most ill-behaved members of the audience<br />
a) both showed up late,<br />
b) broke the &#8220;rules&#8221; of the meeting (due to their tardiness) and<br />
c) gave the impression that they were more interested in &#8220;saying something&#8221; than engaging in a conversation that would lead to any kind of understanding. </p>
<p>Overall everyone was very well behaved and should be commended. I thought the young men in the front asked some excellent questions.</p>
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